Gunnar and New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy do a three questions style interview where the role of the interviewer flips halfway through the show. Governor Murphy talks about the state of the healthcare industry in New Jersey, how the COVID-19 pandemic will reshape health policy choices in the state, and why the pandemic’s shift to remote work could provide opportunities for those who need it most. Gunnar talks about one of his first jobs in the healthcare industry and his hope for career patients to have more than just a stakeholder role in government and the health industry. Finally the conversation moves to the State’s role in healthcare affordability.